“We’ve all failed, but I haven’t killed anyone”: Tense interview resurfaces where Adela Micha confronts Camilo Ochoa

Camilo Ochoa, a former member of the Sinaloa Cartel who rose to popularity as a YouTube content creator, was shot and killed on Saturday, August 16, in Temixco, a town in the state of Morelos.

According to preliminary reports from local media, witnesses said they saw a man leave the YouTuber’s home, leaving the residential area in a vehicle.

Ochoa was lying on the bathroom floor when he was located by family members. His body showed multiple bullet wounds.

The murder of “El Alucín”—as he was also known—sparked renewed interest in his life story, marked by violence, his rivalry with former criminal leader Dámaso López Serrano, known as “El Mini Lic,” and the debate generated by his content, which was accused of promoting drug trafficking.

On X—formerly Twitter—where fragments of his latest videos were shared in an attempt to find clues that might anticipate his end, a fragment of an interview with journalist Adela Micha was widely discussed.

The conversation, held precisely three years before Ochoa’s execution, is marked by a tense debate.

Speaking about his life experience, “El Alucín” drew a comparison between his apprenticeship as a plaza boss in Mazatlán for the Sinaloa Cartel and a university business administration professor.

Speaking about his life experience, “El Alucín” drew a comparison between his apprenticeship as a plaza boss in Mazatlán for the Sinaloa Cartel and a university business administration professor.

“If the professor at the Monterrey Institute of Technology who teaches you business administration was really cool, I wouldn’t be putting up with fifty assholes a day. I mean, I’ve learned more.”

And he added: “I’ve done more business. I have very upright businesses.” Upon hearing this, Adela Micha made an accusation disguised as a comment: “So, you have to wash the money.”

Then, she called Ochoa naive: “You just said a huge piece of shit, considering the whole life you’ve had. A huge piece of shit. If the teacher were that cool, he wouldn’t be teaching at Tec de Monterrey. Don’t you know what a vocation is?” she questioned.

For the journalist, Camilo Ochoa’s message was dangerous for the young people who follow him, as it portrayed organized crime as a prosperous area of development without stopping to highlight its risks.

Although Ochoa referred to “right-wing” businesses in which he failed, Micha repudiated his inclusion of his criminal past in his experience.

“We’ve all failed, but yours truly has never killed anyone, not even close. Nor has she dedicated herself to what you’ve dedicated herself to. Don’t try to justify the unjustifiable. Honestly. I mean, because you tell me: ‘In school they teach you how to be an employee’…”